Igor Volsky
Marist College
Dobson Will Back Third-Party if Giuliani is Nominated

0_61_051507_debate_giuliani.jpgIn today’s New York Times, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson confirmed reports that the religious right has agreed to support a third party candidate if the GOP nominates pro-lifer pro-choicer Rudy Giuliani.

After two hours of deliberation, we voted on a resolution that can be summarized as follows: If neither of the two major political parties nominates an individual who pledges himself or herself to the sanctity of human life, we will join others in voting for a minor-party candidate. Those agreeing with the proposition were invited to stand. The result was almost unanimous.

As TPM notes, “this could obviously have a major impact on the race by splitting the GOP vote. Indeed, a new poll out from Rasmussen today says that more than a quarter — 27% — of Republicans would vote for such a pro-life third-party challenger. What’s particularly interesting about this poll is that it offers GOPers this choice while explicitly naming Hillary and Rudy as the major party nominees — suggesting that even the specter of a victorious Hillary wouldn’t dissuade many Republicans from going third party.” This should send a message to GOP delegates and expect Giuliani to moderate his abortion position. Perhaps he will deliver the commencement address at Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University this spring?

Comments (24)
Kevin

Umm… Sorry but Giuliani is NOT a pro-lifer. Hence why Dobson says he would support a third party, and why I would not vote for him.

Todd

And who would that 3rd party candidate be? It looks like it couldn’t be anyone other than Ron Paul.

Tyke

I believe you meant to say “pro-choicer” not “pro-lifer”

jeff

“… if the GOP nominates pro-lifer Rudy Giuliani.” He’s “Pro-Choice” not “pro-life”

Ty

Get Ron Paul in. He says leave it to the states to decide and that would be a lot easier for people to get passed than a federal law on it.

David Irving

Now I know why Dobson stepped down as the leader of the FOTF. He is far too political to be part of them, and which almost jepordized their non-profit status.

Dobson does not speak for most christians. If family and marriage were so important to him why isn’t he trying to get the divorce laws repealed? Isnt that the number one reason for destroyed marriages? The last time I checked the Bible said, “What God has joined together let NO man put asunder”.

Drewb

Unless I am mistaken, Guiliani is pro-CHOICE, and not pro-life. (This is an error in the above article).

mrunyon

The article says that Giuliani is a pro-lifer. He is a pro-choice(r), actually, and that’s why Dobson doesn’t want to support him, because Dobson is a pro-lifer.

Just a little semantic mixup by the editor. Note that later in the article they mention that “a quarter of Republicans would vote for such a pro-life third-party challenger”.

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jayray

If Dobson funds a 3rd party based on pro-life and Ron Paul forms a 3rd party we’ll have 3 parties splitting the right.

All we need now is to split the democrats into 3 or 4 parties and we’ll have a real election for a change.

Excellent! Giuliani is such a jerk, anything to keep him out of the white house is good enough for me. :). I happen to be pro-choice, but I would rather see anyone else in the white house. Vote hillary in, thompson, ron paul, whoever, just keep that fascist Giuliani out. He does NOT belong in national politics.

Joel

“If family and marriage were so important to him why isn’t he trying to get the divorce laws repealed? Isnt that the number one reason for destroyed marriages? The last time I checked the Bible said, “What God has joined together let NO man put asunder”.”

Most Christians I know, even evangelical fundamentalist Christians, believe divorce, though regrettable, is sometimes necessary. the problem is that Dobson’s and FOTF’s philosopphy is that an divorce should be avoided as much as possible, even in a physically abusive relationship, because the abuser “can change”, which just perpetuates the battered wife syndrome.

And divorce isn’t “the number one reason for destroyed marriage.” It’s the result of a destroyed marriage. Most Christians would likely say mental or sexual infidelity and being “unequally yoked”, meaning of different faiths, or having very different philosophies on life, are the most common causes.

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Well sure, Giuliani supports abortion rights. But who else can protects us from the terrors of 9/11? And besides, he’s America’s mayor. James Dobson is a meanie! Remember 9/11? How those awful terrorists attacked us? Only Giuliani can keep us safe. He’s there to protect us. 9/11. Terrorists.

Nick Kasoff
http://www.thugreport.com

I for one hope Ron Paul wins the election, and I think winning AS A THIRD-PARTY candidate would do America a heckovalotta good. Unfortunately I am also skeptical that a plurality of Americans have enough good sense to vote for a good man. If true, this means, yet again, voting for the “lesser of two evils”. God have mercy on us!

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It’s going to be interesting to see the battle for the republican nomination unfold. The strategy that worked so well for Bush was to get the Dobson crowd on board - that worked well enough to get him elected as president for 8 years. It looks like Giuliani wouldn’t get that support, but could he make up for it with some dems that would crossover?
Robert
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Ken

I’m disgusted by the “Church Council”, of the putative elders (who appointed them, anyway?) of American evangelicaldom, that gathered to wallow in sour grapes because the big, bad GOP isn’t letting them be kingmakers anymore. One of them whined how Bush would never have won in 2004 “if it wasn’t for us”. Well, whoop-de-do, fella, and kindly tell me precisely which article of the Great Commission that fulfills.

Getting left out in the cold is the best thing that could happen to the evangelicals at this juncture in history. The “Christian Right” has gotten a little too accustomed to, dare I say a little too drunk on, its political power over the last twenty years. It’s awfully hard to reconcile such pride with the followers of a Savior whose earthly life ended on a cross.

The main player in this tragifarce, of course, is James Dobson, who felt called upon to announce to the world that he’d boycott the polling booth if it came down to a choice between Clinton and Giuliani. This is the height of irresponsibility and hubris, and, it’s just plain dumb.

Irresponsible, because he’s encouraging the faithful minions who hang on his every word to pull the same cop-out on election day that he plans to (and give the election to Hillary, who’ll accomplish loads for the “Christian Right” agenda, naturally).

Hubris, because, while the man has every right not to vote, he presumptuously assumes that his decision not to vote should matter - indeed, be decisive - to the rest of us (I keep asking myself: so who is this guy, anyway?).

And dumb, well, for a raft of reasons: for one thing, we’re voting for president, not the next pastor of your local church; Dobson doesn’t seem to know the difference (I wonder if he asks for a statement of faith before he lets the plumber touch his kitchen sink…). Moreover, if he really cared about the abortion issue, then you’d think he’d listen to what Giuliani is saying about a “federalist” approach and the appointment of “constructionist” justices. That’s the most promising “pro-life” policy to issue from a Republican national campaign in, well, ever.

And, this time around, it’s quite possibly do-able. Especially if the Christian-Right-kingmaker-wannabe’s don’t grab their political football and stomp off the field in an almighty infantile huff, because nobody let them be captain of the team: “If we can’t play, nobody can! So there!”

I hate to say what I’m going to say, but my gut tells me there’s an even baser element in this whole thing: could it just be that Dobson and the other self-appointed elders of evangelicaldom don’t like the Italian Catholic Giuliani because he’s “not one of us”?

It would be very interesting to know who these men voted for in ‘68, ‘72 and ‘76. It’s a safe bet they voted Republican, even though Nixon and Ford said nary a word on the abortion issue. It wasn’t even on their radar screen. On any practical level, they were both “pro-choice” (Mrs. Ford volubly so). Did Dobson vote for Nixon and Ford? If so, why can’t he bring himself to vote for Giuliani in ‘08? What makes it different now from then? Quite clearly, what makes it different now is that Dobson and Company expect to anoint the Republican candidate.

An expectation like that needs to be exorcized from the heart of anyone who calls himself a follower of Jesus Christ, anyone whose citizenship is in heaven, who seeks a heavenly city whose Architect and Builder is God.

My gut sense is that the days of the peculiar American phenomenon called the “Christian Right” are chokingly and splutteringly expiring. And, that that is a good thing. All things pass away, yet God remains on His throne, His purpose is not thwarted, and the Great Commission hasn’t changed a jot or tittle. There is Life, and a Kingdom, after the Christian Right.

Ken Sears
Zaporozhye, Ukraine

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